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Information Tribunal Appeal Number: EA/2007/0055
Information Commissioner’s Ref: FS50112248
Heard on the papers                                                           Decision Promulgated
at Procession House, London, EC4
on 4th December 2007                                                        17th December 2007
BEFORE
Chairman
JOHN ANGEL
and
LAY MEMBERS
PAUL TAYLOR AND ROSALIND TATAM
Between
Dr John Pugh MP
Appellant
and
INFORMATION COMMISSIONER
Respondent
and
Ministry of Defence
Additional Party
:
Decision
The Tribunal upholds the Decision Notice dated 23rd May 2006 and dismisses the
appeal.
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Reasons for Decision
Introduction
1.  Dr Pugh appeals against the Decision Notice of the Information Commissioner dated
23rd May 2007 (the Decision Notice) which decided that the MoD had correctly
claimed the s.42 Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA) exemption, namely legal
professional privilege (LPP), in relation to his request, and upheld the MoD’s view
that the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighed the public interest in
disclosure.
2.  The MoD was joined as a party and with the agreement of all the parties the case
was considered on the papers before us and not at an oral hearing. This included
the Tribunal considering the witness statement of Paul Inman the Deputy Director of
Information Access at the MoD which was not challenged by Dr Pugh.
3.  Because of the LPP exemption having been claimed by the MoD part of the
information before us is contained in a closed bundle and has not been disclosed to
Dr Pugh. It is necessary for the Tribunal to consider such information in this way
because otherwise disclosure of the information at this stage in the proceedings or
before would defeat the object of having exemptions under FOIA. It is only where the
Tribunal orders disclosure and the public authority does not appeal against the
decision that the information is no longer subject to confidentiality.
Factual background to the request for information
4.  Dr Pugh is a Member of Parliament who has, on behalf of a constituent, been in
correspondence with various government departments since April 2004 about the
implications of two judgements of the European Court of Justice (ECJ) on the status
of former employees of the Royal Ordinance Factory Organisation (ROFO).
5.  The ROFO is regarded by the Government as having been part of the MoD until 2nd
January 1985. On that date Royal Ordinance Plc (RO Plc) was formed. MoD
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employees who transferred to RO Plc were treated by the Government as becoming
employees of that company on that date. Following the abandonment of a planned
flotation of RO Plc in summer 1986, there was an agreed sale to Vickers Plc in April
1987 of part of the business. The remainder was sold to British Aerospace Plc (now
BAE Systems) in October 1987.
6.  The two ECJ judgements in question are Henke v Gemeinde Schierke and
Verwaltungsgemeinschaft Brocken
C-298/94, [1997] ICR 746 and Celtec Ltd v
Astley
C-478/03, [2005] ICR 1409. Both judgements concern the application of the
Acquired Rights Directive (Directive 77/187), which was implemented into UK law by
the then Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations 1981,
more commonly known as “TUPE”. In Henke the ECJ ruled that a reorganisation of
public administrative functions (e.g. the transfer of an administrative function from
one department of government or local government to another) will fall outside the
scope of TUPE. In Celtec Ltd the ECJ acknowledged that a transfer to which TUPE
applies may take place over a period of time. However, the ECJ ruled that there will
always be a single ‘date of transfer’, being the date on which responsibility as
employer for carrying on the business moves from the ‘transferor’ to the ‘transferee’.
The application of the ECJ judgment to the particular facts of the case in Celtec Ltd
was considered by the House of Lords ([2006] UKHL 29, [2006] ICR 992) in June
2006.
7.  Dr Pugh’s particular concern is the implications of those two judgements for the date
that his constituent should have been regarded as ceasing to be in civil service
employment for the purpose of membership of the Principal Civil Service Pension
Scheme (PCSPS). His constituent was in fact treated (in common with all
transferring ROFO employees) as ceasing to be in civil service employment on 2nd
January 1985 (ROFO employees being regarded as having transferred from the
public sector to the private employment of RO Plc on that date). His constituent was
at that time given the option of either transferring his accumulated pension benefits
to a private sector scheme, or preserving them in the PCSPS. Dr Pugh contends
(on behalf of his constituent) that he should in fact have been regarded, in the light
of the two ECJ judgements, as continuing to be a civil service employee (and active
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member of the PCSPS) until October 1987, when the business was sold to BAE
Systems.
8.  The request for information that is the subject of the Decision Notice was made by
Dr Pugh in a letter of 6th September 2005 to Dr John Reid, then Secretary of State
for Defence, in the following terms:
“I would be grateful to learn what advice the Department, or the Government,
has sought or provided regarding the application of the two judgements of
the ECJ referred to above on the ROFO transfer and matters, in order to
ensure that the Government’s potential liabilities are properly covered.”
9.  Although the request was addressed to an MP (who is not a “public authority” for the
purposes of the Act), the request was treated by Dr Reid as a request to the MoD
and the MoD in turn treated it as a request made to them under s.1 FOIA.
10. Dr Pugh also made a request in similar terms on the same day to the Rt Hon John
Hutton MP (then Minister of State for the Cabinet Office). The two requests have, so
far as is relevant, been regarded and dealt with by all parties as being the same
request for information.
11. The MoD responded to Dr Pugh on 28th September 2005. It explained that legal
advice had been sought by the MoD in October 2004 in relation to a letter that Dr
Pugh had written to Douglas Alexander MP (then Minister of State, Cabinet Office)
on 23rd August 2004 on the same topic (the disputed information). The letter had
also been passed to the MoD and the MoD had sought advice before replying to that
letter on 17th January 2005. The MoD stated that it was withholding this advice
under the exemption for information covered by legal professional privilege, s 42
FOIA. In relation to the public interest test, it said that it did not consider the case to
be “exceptional” so as to outweigh the public interest in maintaining the exemption.
This letter also explained that the MoD was not aware of any other advice having
been taken, by it or the Government, on the application of the two ECJ judgements
to the transfer of the former ROFO employees to the private sector.
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12. On 7th October 2005, Dr Pugh submitted a request for an internal review of the
MoD’s decision. He stated that “the information requested relates to advice as to
how the government should discharge its legal responsibilities to a significant group
of citizens”
and said that it was needed “to enable me as a Member of Parliament to
scrutinise whether the executive arm of government is carrying out its
responsibilities properly”
. He made clear that he did not accept that no legal advice
had been sought on this issue since “the two judgements of the ECJ are most clear
and unequivocal, and it would seem obvious that their application to the
circumstances of the ROFO pensions would require government action unless there
were, as yet, undiscovered legal arguments presented to the contrary”
.
13. On 1st December 2005, the MoD responded to Dr Pugh’s request for an internal
review. The MoD upheld its original decision. It explained, in relation to the public
interest test, that it considered the public interest favoured the maintenance of the
exemption because (i) there is a strong public interest in protecting the confidentiality
of communications between lawyers and their clients; and (ii) the application of the
two ECJ judgements to the facts of any particular case is a matter of law for the
courts to determine. The MoD explained that it therefore considered that there is
little public interest in releasing the advice.
14. On 11th January 2006 Dr Pugh wrote again to the MoD requesting that the Ministry
reconsider its decision. In his letter, he argued that the public interest in disclosure
was strong because the matter concerned the relationship between former public
sector employees and the Government. He explained that if legal advice received
by the Government contradicted the Government’s previously stated position, there
would be a clear public interest in that being known to the public.
15. On the same day, Dr Pugh submitted a complaint to the Commissioner about the
way in which his request had been handled. Neither of these letters of 11th January
2006 was received by their respective recipients. Dr Pugh subsequently sent
reminders and further copies of his letters to both the Commissioner and the MoD on
23rd March 2006. These were received.
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16. The MoD responded on 7th April 2006. In that letter it clarified that the advice it had
sought in relation to Dr Pugh’s earlier correspondence had concerned only the first
ECJ case, Henke. It confirmed that it had not sought, and therefore did not hold,
legal advice in relation to the second ECJ case, Celtec v Astley.
The Information Commissioner’s decision
17. The Commissioner served the Decision Notice on both Dr Pugh and the MoD in
accordance with s. 50 FOIA. In the Decision Notice, the Commissioner stated that
he was satisfied that the MoD did not hold information of precisely the description
specified in the request. However, the MoD did hold information that fell within the
scope of the request, specifically the advice that it took in 2004 in relation to Dr
Pugh’s correspondence. The Commissioner stated that he was satisfied the MoD
had properly applied the s. 42 exemption to this advice and that the public interest in
maintaining the exemption outweighed the public interest in disclosing the
information. The Commissioner accordingly found that the public authority had dealt
with the request for information in accordance with the Act.
The appeal to the Tribunal
18. The Notice of Appeal names both the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) and
the MoD as the public authorities to whom Dr Pugh’s request was sent. The
Commissioner accepted that Dr Pugh’s two requests of 6th September 2005 were in
fact dealt with by both the MPs to whom they were sent as requests to the MoD.
The MoD dealt with the request accordingly and it is the MoD’s response to Dr
Pugh’s request which the Commissioner investigated. The Decision Notice is
accordingly only a determination by the Commissioner in relation to Dr Pugh’s
request to the MoD and it is this Decision Notice only to with which the Tribunal is
concerned in this appeal.
19. In the Notice of Appeal, Dr Pugh complains that the Commissioner has misdirected
himself on two matters:
a. In respect of paragraph 37 of the Decision Notice, Dr Pugh complains that
the Commissioner has stated that the information being sought related only
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to the seeking of advice as to how to respond to the enquiries, whereas in
fact the information requested was of such a detailed and technical nature
that the formulation and delivery of that advice could not have taken place
without addressing the substantive issue itself. Dr Pugh says that the
Commissioner has here created “an artificial distinction”.
b. In respect of paragraph 38 of the Decision Notice, Dr Pugh complains that
the Commissioner has wrongly taken the view that the information sought did
not affect or change the financial status of a significant group of people and
has therefore failed properly to consider the balance of the public interest.
Dr Pugh points out that the information sought related to “a pension fund of
approximately £1 billion, affecting 19,500 pensioners and their dependents,
as well as the financial position/liability of HM Government”.
Statutory framework
20. Section 42 of the Act provides:
“(1) Information in respect of which a claim to legal professional privilege…could be
maintained in legal proceedings is exempt information.”
21. Section 2(2) of the Act provides:
In respect of any information which is exempt information by virtue of any provision
of Part II Section 1(1)(b) does not apply if or to the extent that –
(b) in all the circumstances of the case, the public interest in maintaining the
exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information.
22. The Tribunal’s powers in relation to appeals under s. 57 FOIA are set out in s. 58 as
follows:
(1) If on an appeal under section 57 the Tribunal considers-
(a) that the notice against which the appeal is brought is not in
accordance with the law, or
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(b) to the extent that the notice involved an exercise of discretion by
the Commissioner, that he ought to have exercised his discretion
differently,
the Tribunal shall allow the appeal or substitute such other notice
as could have been served by the Commissioner; and in any other
case the Tribunal shall dismiss the appeal.
(2) On such an appeal, the Tribunal may review any finding of fact on which
the notice in question was based.
23. The starting point for the Tribunal is the decision notice of the Commissioner but
the Tribunal also receives and hears evidence, which is not limited to the material
that was before the Commissioner. The Tribunal, having considered the evidence
(and it is not bound by strict rules of evidence) may make different findings of fact
from the Commissioner and consider the decision notice is not in accordance with
the law because of those different facts. Nevertheless, if the facts are not in dispute
the Tribunal must consider whether FOIA has been applied correctly. In cases
involving the public interest test in section 2(2)(b) a mixed question of law and fact
is involved. If the facts are decided differently by the Tribunal, or the Tribunal
comes to a different conclusion on the same facts that will involve a finding that the
decision notice was not in accordance with the law.
24. The question of whether the exemption in s. 42 FOIA is engaged and whether the
consequential public interest test was applied properly are all questions of law
based upon the analysis of the facts. This is not a case where the Commissioner
was required to exercise his discretion.
The questions for the Tribunal
25. The questions for the Tribunal to consider in this case are
(a) Whether s. 42 of the Act was engaged, and if so
(b) Does the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweigh the public
interest in disclosure?
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Legal Professional Privilege
26. What is LPP? In Bellamy v ICO and Secretary of State for Trade and Industry [2006]
UKIT EA 2005 0023 a differently constituted Tribunal after reviewing the judicial
authority in relation to LPP found:
9. In general, the notion of legal professional privilege can be described as a set
of rules or principles which are designed to protect the confidentiality of legal or
legally related communications and exchanges between the client and his, her
or its lawyers, as well as exchanges which contain or refer to legal advice which
might be imparted to the client, and even exchanges between the clients and
their parties if such communications or exchanges come into being for the
purposes of preparing for litigation. A further distinction has grown up between
legal advice privilege and litigation privilege. Again, in general terms, the former
covers communications relating to the provision of legal advice, whereas the
latter, as the term suggests, encompasses communications which might include
exchanges between those parties, where the sole or dominant purpose of the
communications is that they relate to any litigation which might be in
contemplation, quite apart from where it is already in existence.
27. This Tribunal adopts the definition of LPP in Bellamy. Having considered the
disputed information, the written submissions and all other evidence before us the
Tribunal finds that it is covered by LPP and therefore agrees with the
Commissioner’s finding in the Decision Notice that the exemption is engaged.
The public interest test and LPP
28. The Tribunal has considered the public interest test (PIT) in relation to the s.42
exemption in a number of decisions. Bellamy undertook a review of the case law on
LPP and concluded at paragraph 35
As can be seen from the citation of legal authorities regarding legal professional
privilege, there is a strong element of public interest inbuilt into the privilege
itself. At least equally strong countervailing considerations would need to be
adduced to override that inbuilt public interest. ... it is important that public
authorities be allowed to conduct a free exchange of views as to their legal
rights and obligations with those advising them without fear of intrusion, save in
the most clear case, of which this case is not one.
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29. This finding has been largely adopted by this Tribunal in other decisions - Shipton v
Information Commissioner (EA/2006/0028), Kitchener v Information Commissioner &
Derby City Council [2006] UKIT EA 2006 0044 and more recently, in Adlam v
Information Commissioner (EA/2006/0079) where the Tribunal said at paragraph 63:
The real debate between the Appellant and the other parties concerns
whether the public interest in maintaining the exemption in section 42 in this
case outweighed any public interest in disclosure of the particular
information. The exemption is a qualified one. However, the Tribunal in
Bellamy v Information Commissioner (EA/2005/0023) made it clear
especially at paragraph 35 that there was what it called “a strong element of
public interest inbuilt into the privilege itself” and that “at least equally strong
countervailing considerations would need to be adduced to override that
inbuilt public interest.
30. In Shipton at paragraph 14 the Tribunal having recognised that s.42 was not an
absolute exemption stated that if the qualified nature of the exemption is to have any
meaning
There will be occasions when the public interest in disclosure will outweigh the
public interest in maintaining privilege. This may arise, for example, when the
harm likely to be suffered by the party entitled to legal profession privilege is
slight, or the requirement for disclosure is overwhelming.
The harm may be slight where the privilege holder no longer has a recognised
interest to protect. However where the particular issue raised by the legal advice
sought remains “live” this would render it particularly sensitive – see Kitchener at [18].
31.  Also recently In Gillingham v Information Commissioner EA/2007/0028 at paragraph
16 after reciting most of the above decisions on LPP the Tribunal
....... noted that, generally speaking, the public interest reasons for maintaining
the legal professional privilege exemption are particularly strong. This is
because the purpose of the privilege is to serve the administration of justice and
to safeguard the right of any person to obtain entirely frank and realistic legal
advice. The privilege is a fundamental human right long established in the
common law and now supported both by European law and by Article 8 of the
Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms.
Nevertheless the balance of public interest must be assessed in each case to
see whether in the particular circumstances the public interest in maintaining
the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosure.
32.  At paragraph 8 the Tribunal stated that
A person seeking disclosure of material protected by legal professional
privilege could argue that Parliament, by making the exemption in the Act
qualified and not absolute, intended that legal professional privilege could be
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overridden without any particular difficulty. We do not consider that this is what
Parliament intended. The test which we must apply is that laid down in s2(2)(b),
namely, that in all the circumstances of the case the public interest in
maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the
information. This wording does not give any guidance as to the degree of
importance of the public interest in maintaining a particular exemption. On the
inherent importance of the exemption we take our cue from the decisions
mentioned.
For the public interest in maintaining legal professional privilege not to outweigh
the public interest in disclosure, the public interest in disclosure needs to be
particularly strong, because proportionate reasons are required for not
upholding a fundamental human right.
33. Most recently in Kessler v Information Commissioner and HM Commissioners for
Revenue & Customs (
EA/2007/0043) the Tribunal found in relation to Bellamy at
paragraphs 53 to 56
53. This was an early decision from this Tribunal on the exemption under
section 42 of FOIA and it is clear from the approaches taken in subsequent
decisions that although there will be powerful reasons for maintaining the
exemption because of its very nature as a protection from disclosure, it is not an
absolute exemption, and care should be taken not to accord it higher status.
There will be occasions when the public interest in disclosure will outweigh the
public interest in maintaining the exemption.
54. We adopt what was said in Burgess v The Information Commissioner and
Stafford Borough Council
(EA/2006/0091) at paragraph 44;
“The Tribunal wants to make it clear that legal privilege is not an absolute
[exemption] and furthermore, it is not enough in each case simply to assert
that the Tribunal’s previous decision in Bellamy effectively makes the
[exemption] an absolute one: that is not correct.”
55.  We agree with the Appellant’s assertion that by making section 42 a
qualified exemption subject to the public interest test in section 2(2)(b),
Parliament clearly rejected the view expressed in some judgments that the
public interest in obtaining legal advice in confidence automatically prevails over
almost any other interest. By the enactment of FOIA, Parliament has done
exactly what the House of Lords in R v Derby Magistrates Court, ex parte B
[1995] 4 All ER 526, per Lord Taylor, said was required to change the absolute
nature of legal privilege, it has added a public interest balancing exercise.
56.  As to the application of that public interest balancing exercise, we again
agree with the Appellant’s assertion that FOIA puts no onus on an applicant to
show that the public interest in disclosure outweighed the public interest in
maintaining the exemption. The Additional Party points out that “there is no
suggestion anywhere within the section that any legal burden of proof is
applicable at all.” The Information Commissioner did not, in our opinion, place
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any burden on the Appellant to show that the public interest lay in favour of
disclosure.
Legal submissions on PIT
34. The MoD argues that given the significance of the public interest in the protection of
information subject to legal professional privilege, even though the s. 42 exemption
is a qualified exemption the Tribunal has recognised that disclosure of information
that is exempt under it should only occur where there are “at least equally strong
countervailing considerations” weighing in favour of disclosure (see Bellamy and
Adlam). The public policy rationale for this high level of protection for information that
is subject to legal professional privilege lies in the principles comprising the rule of
law. It is a matter of high public importance that all persons should be able to obtain
legal advice as to the conduct of their affairs. This aim is best advanced by ensuring
full and frank communication between clients and their legal advisers. The benefits
accruing are secured in practice by a high degree of certainty that information so
communicated is to be regarded as confidential. Anything less than this is capable of
seriously undermining the policy objective, thereby damaging the public interest - R
v Derby Magistrates ex parte B
[1996] 1 AC 487 per Lord Taylor at 508A – E; and
per Lord Lloyd at pp. 509C – 510A.
35. This point is demonstrated, so the MoD submits, by the fact that ordinarily (as
regards disclosure/inspection in the context of litigation), once information is subject
to legal professional privilege, it retains that protection without limitation in time (see
Adlam at [72]), and regardless of the subject matter of any subsequent litigation, and
regardless of whether or not a court considers that the client has any recognisable
interest in doing so in those proceedings (see Nationwide Building Societies v
Various Solicitors
[1999] PNLR 52 per Blackburne J at 69). These characteristics,
the MoD argues, demonstrate both the specific strength of the public interest in the
protection of legal professional privilege, and the fact that the need to
protect/promote that public interest is not of itself sensitive to the passage of time.
The existence of such protection in the litigation context is the most cogent evidence
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of the public interest in the protection of information within the scope of legal
professional privilege. Ordinarily in litigation, the public interest is best (and most
obviously) served by rules requiring the disclosure as between the parties to the
litigation of all documentation/information that touches on the dispute between them.
This is itself a matter of high public importance. For this reason, the clear and long-
standing exception to these rules that exists in respect of information covered by
legal professional privilege is itself a matter of high significance.
36. The MoD submits that the reasons why there is a strong public interest in
maintaining the exemption under section 42 are clear, and having regard to those
reasons, there is no basis for drawing any distinction between the position of natural
persons, and the position of bodies that are FOIA public authorities. With this the
Tribunal agrees.
37. The MoD further submits that in the interests of maintaining the rule of law, there is
a particularly strong public interest in enabling public authorities to obtain
appropriate legal advice on the basis of free and candid communication with their
lawyers (and vice-versa). Legal advice needs to be given in context, with a full
knowledge of all the relevant facts. Without the ability to seek comprehensive
advice, with complete candour, the circumstances surrounding the decision-making
process are impaired hence putting at risk the quality of decision-making itself.
38. Finally the MoD argues that the inherent public interest in maintaining legal
professional privilege is in itself so weighty that only in cases where there is an
exceptionally compelling public interest in favour of disclosure of the specific
information sought would the balance fall in favour of disclosure.
Tribunal’s finding on PIT
39. This Tribunal notes and approves the development of the application of the LLP
exemption in the line of Tribunal decisions outlined above.
40. The Tribunal accepts that with all exemptions under FOIA that the exemption itself
will usually represent the principal public interest in maintaining the exemption and
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therefore can be described as an “inherent” public interest in favour of maintaining
the exemption. The Tribunal does not accept that there is any inbuilt weight
automatically applicable to qualified exemptions, whether class based or not.
However in the case of the LLP exemption the weight of judicial opinion referred to
in the above cases gives the exemption itself greater weight and to that extent may
be described as having an “inbuilt” weight requiring equally weighty public interests
in favour of disclosure, if the exemption is not to be maintained.
41. The MoD and Commissioner contend that the public interests in favour of disclosure
need to be “exceptional” to result in disclosure where the LPP exemption is
engaged. We do not believe that this is the correct test to be applied under FOIA.
The test is as set out under s.2(2)(b) FOIA, namely that “in all the circumstances of
the case, the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighs the public
interest in disclosing the information.” This requires a consideration of the factors in
favour of maintaining the exemption and those favouring disclosure and the weight
to be attributed to the factors in the circumstances of the particular case in order
determining where the balance lies. The fact there is already an inbuilt weight in the
LPP exemption will make it more difficult to show the balance lies in favour of
disclosure but that does not mean that the factors in favour of disclosure need to be
exceptional, just as or more weighty than those in favour of maintaining the
exemption.
Application of PIT – factors in favour of maintaining the exemption
42. The MoD submits in this case that there is an inbuilt weighty public interest inherent
in the exemption and this factor is accepted by the Commissioner. This submission
is largely based on the findings in Bellamy and other Tribunal decisions. In addition,
the MoD argues, there is also a specific public interest in maintaining LPP, in view of
the possibility that Dr Pugh’s constituent, or others to whom this advice might be
shown if it was disclosed, may be raising this matter with a view to engaging in some
form of litigation against the Government.
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43. In the Tribunal’s view this additional submission must be considered in the context
that the identity and motive of the requester is largely irrelevant in FOIA cases.
44. The MoD submits that If Dr Pugh or his constituent wish to establish the legal
position as to when the transfer of the relevant undertaking took place, there is
nothing to prevent them seeking independent legal advice and, if necessary,
bringing legal proceedings to determine the question, particularly as the MOD has
already advised Dr Pugh that his constituent should consider this course of action.
45. Again in the Tribunal’s view this submission must be considered in the context that
the requester is entitled to pursue a FOIA request prior to a decision to litigate.
46. The Commissioner considered that the request did not affect or change the financial
status of a significant group of people – see Decision Notice at paragraph 38.
Factors in favour of disclosure
47. Dr Pugh as part of his grounds of appeal in paragraph 19b above maintains that a
significant group is involved, some 19,500 pensions and their dependants, in relation
to a pension fund of approximately £1 billion. This contention is not disputed by the
other parties. The Tribunal also considers this to be a significant group in contrast to
the Commissioner’s finding.
48. Dr Pugh also makes the point that this could affect the financial position or liability of
the Government which would clearly be of interest to the public.
49. In his letter of 11th January 2006 to the MoD Dr Pugh argues that the accurate
understanding of how the law affects the legal relationship between the Government,
former ROFO employees and their pension fund is something which should be
shared with the parties as a general matter of public interest and not to do so could
amount to negligence on the Government’s behalf. Put another way there is a strong
public interest in favour of releasing information related to advice as to how the
Government should discharge its legal responsibilities to a significant group of
citizens and disclosure is required in order to establish whether or not the executive
arm of government is carrying out its responsibilities properly.
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50. The Commissioner considered this argument at paragraphs 33 and 34 of the
Decision Notice.
51. The Tribunal notes that TUPE affects large numbers of employees in the UK and
that there will be a general public interest in understanding how ECJ decisions
should be applied as a matter of policy to transfers of employees in the public sector.
Conclusion
52. The Tribunal having found that the exemption is engaged needs to consider the
application of the PIT. The question of whether the public interest in maintaining the
exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information is one to be
addressed and determined by the Tribunal, based on all the relevant circumstances
of this case and all the evidence before us.
53. Before doing this the Tribunal would set out some general principles established in
other Tribunal decisions which we have taken into account in coming to our decision
in this case:
a.  There is an assumption built into FOIA that disclosure of information by
public authorities on request is in the public interest in order to promote
transparency and accountability in relation to the activities of public
authorities. The strength of that interest and the strength of competing
interests must be assessed on a case-by-case basis.
b.  The passage of time since the creation of the information may have an
important bearing on the balancing exercise. As a general rule, the public
interest in maintaining an exemption diminishes over time.
c.   In considering the public interest factors in favour of maintaining the
exemption, the focus should be upon the public interests expressed explicitly
or implicitly in the particular exemption provision at issue.
d.  The public interest factors in favour of disclosure are not so restricted and
can take into account the general public interests in the promotion of
transparency, accountability, public understanding and involvement in the
democratic process.
54. The Commissioner in the Decision Notice [37] considered that in light of the
Tribunal’s finding in Bellamy that “only in very exceptional cases would the public
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interest operate to allow such advice to be released” and that this was not one of
those cases.
55. We are concerned that the Commissioner in this case should interpret the test in this
way as explained at paragraph 41 above. Unlike other exemptions, because of the
body of judicial opinion from higher courts in relation to the importance of
maintaining LPP, we accept that there is a strong element of public interest inbuilt
into the exemption itself, but that this does not, in effect, convert the exemption into
an absolute exemption. It makes no difference that LPP is a class exemption. For
the Commissioner or the Tribunal to find that the public interest favours disclosure
there will need to be equally weighty public interest factors in favour of disclosure in
the circumstances of the particular case. This does not necessarily mean that it
needs to be an exceptional case.
56. We have considered all the factors favouring maintaining the exemption and those
favouring disclosure in this case and consider them more closely balanced than
found by the Commissioner in the Decision Notice. This is particularly because we
find there is a significant group of people who are potentially affected by, and a large
pension fund related to, the subject matter of the information. We find there is
potentially a weighty public interest in this group knowing their pension rights and the
public knowing whether there could be a call on the Government to find substantial
sums to cover any pension shortfall.
57. However, we are mindful of the fact that Dr Pugh was seeking a legal opinion on the
effect of two ECJ decisions on the interpretation of TUPE. There is no evidence that
such an opinion was obtained in its own right and neither the MoD nor Government
is obliged to obtain or create such advice in relation to a request under FOIA. We
are only concerned with relevant information held by the MoD at the time of the
request. The legal advice, which is the disputed information, was obtained in
relation to a previous enquiry by Dr Pugh in 2004. As it refers to the first ECJ
decision, Henke, the MoD quite correctly considered it as part of the request albeit
not covering one of the decisions or being obtained under the circumstances
envisaged by Dr Pugh under his request. Having considered the disputed
information the Tribunal finds that it is tangential or at best only partially related to
the request. This fact, in our view, weakens the weight of the public interests in
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favour of disclosure. Also having considered the disputed information we conclude
the ‘artificial distinction’ which Dr Pugh refers to in his first ground of appeal
(paragraph 19a. above) does not occur.
58. We therefore find that in the circumstances of this particular case that the public
interest in maintaining the LPP exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosure
and we dismiss the appeal.
59. Our decision is unanimous.
Signed
JOHN ANGEL
Chairman                                                                            Date 17th December 2007
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